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07-06-02, 14:08
AN KSERW GW AGORASW KAI KALA APO INTRACONNECT TO PAKETO PLUS 256 MPORW NA TO ANABATHMISW MELLONTIKA SE MEGALYTERES TAXYTHTES XWRIS TRAGIKES SYNEPEIES?XREIAZETAI KAMIA TROPOPOIHSH STH GRAMMH?EINAI MEGALH H DIADIKASIA?

THANX

07-06-02, 16:47
DEn nomizo oti tha hriasti na alaksis esi tipota ston eksoplismo sou eite stin grammi sou ... Apla afti tha sou dosoun megalitero bandwidth .. to DSL MODEM reach DSL 6350 FTani mehri 1 Mbit boris na to diapistosis ke monos sou stin selida http://www.paradyne.com.. Afta...

BTW eho dsl apo IC oti allo the na me rotisis kane post edo ke tha to apadiso :-)

07-06-02, 20:29
na se rwthsw egw kati DiO?
otan hr8e o ote na sou balei thn eu8eia ti akribws ekane?
px. ftia3ane kati mexri ta e3wterika koutia h perasane kalwdia kai mesa sto spiti? (trypes stous toixous klp?)
Epishs meta apo poso kairo hr8e o ote na perasei thn eu8eia?
emena mou eipan sthn intraconnect oti 8a eprepe na exei er8ei se mena kai motan pira ston ote na dw ti ginetai mou eipa na perimenw allh mia bdomada.. :x
thanx

07-06-02, 21:27
file na sou po tin alithia de ksero opote borei na leo kai baroufes
alla LOGIKA pada

oute tripes spiti sou anoigoun
oute kalodia sou fernoun ap'ekso
einai kai ta dio adinato

px.
pes oti ego meno se mia polikatikia kedro marousi
7 orofo

einai dinato?
OXI

aplos sto kedro sou ston ote
(opou einai afto gia ton kathena mas)
allazoun ti grammi se dsl

toulaxiston etsi doulevei sti theoria

diaforetika to dsl tha itan mono gia monokatikies........

cheers mate

07-06-02, 21:51
dio diavasa oti exeis dsl apo IC

loipon thelo na se rotikso to eksis prin paro til tous texnikous tis IC

loipon

exo mia grammi spiti kai meno se polikatikia 5 orofo
loipon o ipologistis einai bolika domatia makria apo tin kedriki briza
opote an valo DSL einai opos to ISDN opou tha eprepe na katargiso oles tis alles tilefonikes brizes sto spiti? (fisika adinato)
diladi oi brizes sto spiti prepei na paraminoun ston ote
kai to dsl sto domatio mou
ennoeite kalodia sto patoma einai out of the question
den exo prob na agoraso ksexoristo dsl modem gia to pc mou
thnx

ps.
an den eisai sigouros apla pes to mou
no prob
katalavaines thelo 100% apadisi

thnx kai pali file

07-06-02, 22:04
ksexasa.....
oi brizes sto spiti einai apla vraxikilomata.....greek polikatikia einai
oxi amerikaniko spiti ;)

08-06-02, 03:33
File Neat:

Ego spiti mou eho ISDN , to opio simeni 2 tilefonika noumera ke 128 Kbps internet... afti ti stigmi to DSL tis IC den beni pano apo ISDN grammi giafto hriastike mia kenouria eftia grammi...

Epidi omos ime psilo-kolofardos thimithika oti ihame ke mia palia grammi pou ihame katargisi otan valame ISDN, ara otan irthan i texnikoi tou ote apla energopiisan tin palia grami kanontas tin eftia !!! :-)

O ote ekane na erthi 2 bdomades ke o tehnikos tis IC 1 bdomada... I theiki mera itan 16 Apriliou 2002. (edo ke 2 mines peripou )!!!!!

oson afora ton filo mou pou rotai to ti tha kani epidi to tilefono ine makria apo to pc i lisi ine poli apli pigene to pc dipla sto tilefo HAHAHA plaka kano .... Otan valis DSL den hriazete (nomizo) to modem na ine dipla sto pc efoson to pc den sindeete sto modem apeftias alla sindeete meso mias Ethernet Kartas... ara to mono pou ehis na kanis ine na paris ena makri UTP kalodio... Tora ama ta kalodia sto patoma ine toso megalo provlima ti na sou po ? EGO PROSOPIKA THA ERIHNA KE TIHO GIA NA VALO TO DSL MOU :-)!!!!!!!!!

Elpizo na voithisa,
DiO.

08-06-02, 03:54
xmmmm

opos poli anthropoi sto greece de meno monos mou
opos arketoi anthropoi exo megalo spiti
opos kabosoi einai 2 orofoi
opos oloi sxedon i kedriki briza vriskete ston enan
kai ta ipnodomatia ston allo
fisika exoume kai diafores tilefonikes siskeves spiti
oute ginete na tis katargisoume
oute ginete to kalodio na trexei apo to saloni-diadromo-skala-diadromo-ipnodomatio
ara ektos kai an ginete my way distixos gia mena kirios( if not only )its no way at all
kati mou leei pos den eimai o monadikos me afto to prob
apo tis liges fores stin istoria pou oi tixeroi einai aftoi me ta ligotera fraga
(mikra tetragonika!!!!!!)
i aftoi pou proevlepsan kai valane domimeni kalodiosi spitia tous
na einai 1,000 se oli tin ellada?

Νεκτάριος
08-06-02, 21:21
xmmmm

opos poli anthropoi sto greece de meno monos mou
opos arketoi anthropoi exo megalo spiti
opos kabosoi einai 2 orofoi
opos oloi sxedon i kedriki briza vriskete ston enan
kai ta ipnodomatia ston allo
fisika exoume kai diafores tilefonikes siskeves spiti
oute ginete na tis katargisoume
oute ginete to kalodio na trexei apo to saloni-diadromo-skala-diadromo-ipnodomatio
ara ektos kai an ginete my way distixos gia mena kirios( if not only )its no way at all
kati mou leei pos den eimai o monadikos me afto to prob
apo tis liges fores stin istoria pou oi tixeroi einai aftoi me ta ligotera fraga
(mikra tetragonika!!!!!!)
i aftoi pou proevlepsan kai valane domimeni kalodiosi spitia tous
na einai 1,000 se oli tin ellada?

Proton afou exeis polles tilefonikes siskeyes sta ipnodomatia sou tote opws akribws syndeses tis tilefonikes aytes grammes etsi 8a kaneis kai me to dsl apla.

Xerw 8a mou peis oti einai xazh h apanthsh pou sou dinw, alla ego anarotiemai pos kataferes kai ebales thlefono sto domatio pou exeis to pc... An exeis kai an ontos to exeis perasei swsta tote poly pi8anon na mporeis na peraseis kai to dsl me ton idio akribws tropo.

Na xereis pantos oti mono i ADSL einai h texnologia pou 8elei na pernaei to idio tilefoniko kalodio oles oi alles einai xexwristes grammes diladi me thn ADSL 8a prepei na exeis splitter sto kalodio na diaxorizete se 2 grammes mia gia thlefona kai mia gia ADSL.

Enw stin SDSL pou sou dinei p.x. h Intraconnect den einai etsi, uelei deyterei jexwristh grammh poy ua sthn feroun oi texnikoi tou ote kai ua synde8ei apo to Kafao tou spitiou sou kato sthn polykatoikia mexri to spiti sou.


Pesmou poio akribws einai to problhma sou gia na mporeso pego kai oi ypoloipoi edw mesa an mporoume na se bohuhsoyme.


Filika.

09-06-02, 15:49
empire efxaristo alla meso meso poli spaksimatos kai epikoinonias meso delphi forums(demisN) mou fenete ta katalava (osa xriazodousan diladi)
ti katalava akrivos:
meno marousi se mia polikatikia se ena 2orofo diamerisma.
to saloni me tin kedriki briza tou ote vriskete ston ena orofo.ekei kataligoun 2 grammes ote. i mia diakladizete sto ipolipo spiti(mesa apo tous tixous otan ftiaxtike i polikatikia) me vraxikiklomata kai paei se ola ta domatia. kai oi dio litourgoun me noumera ote kai einai kai oi dio aparaitites stin oikogenia mou.
tora katalava epitelous oti i IC dinei sdsl, ara odos fernei kenouria efthia.
kai as poume oti opos leei enas filos sto delphi einai efkolo na erthei apo to isogeio to kalodio tis IC sto saloni.
tora gia pite mou.....einai dinato se ena spiti pou apotimate se 9psifio noumero (se draxmes) na iparxei ena oraio kalodio tixo-tixo apo to saloni-diadromo-skala esoteriki-diadromo-ipnodomatio-pc?
einai o idios logos pou den evala ISDN.
ektos paidia kai an einai efkolo apo texnikis apopsis na peraso to kalodio briza-briza 2 orofous os to domatio mou....an isxiei kati tetoio tote allazei to pragma...
diladi:
thelo na kratiso kai tis 2 grammes ote.
thelo adsl(esto sdsl) sto domatio mou MONO
DE THELO na vlepo kalodia (oute ego....poli perissotero oi goneis mou pou pleronoun).
pistevo egina katanoitos.....
opote pite mou.
GINETE?
an NAI............TELEIA!!!!!!!(pao methavrio na valo IC)
an OXI........krima gia mena.
tespa.....
perimeno apadisi sas......


tora se mail pou esteila otenet gia adsl mou apadisan:
Θα θέλαμε να σας ευχαριστήσουμε που επικοινωνήσατε με την OTEnet.
Σας ενημερώνουμε ότι σχετικά με τις υπηρεσίες ADSL βρισκόμαστε σε
συνεργασία με τον ΟΤΕ και στο άμεσο μέλλον θα υπάρξουν επίσιμες
ανακοινώσεις.

Με εκτίμηση,

Κυριακόπουλος Στάθης
-----------------------------------
OTEnet A.E. (http://www.otenet.gr/)
Κηφισίας 56 & Δελφών, 151-25 Μαρούσι
Τηλ: +3010-6151600
Fax: +3010-6151700
e-mail: info@otenet.gr

klasiko mail tha mou peite...alla exo tin ediposi oti i otenet tha ksekinisei adsl prin to telos tou xronou( se kamia periptosi oso fthina oso i IC...alla edaksei.....an de do times apo to site tous de pistevo kanena......den exo prob na skao 25-30,000 GRD to mina.

alla an mou pite pos ginete na valo sdsl apo IC me ton tropo pou anefera
tote pithanos de tha perimeno otenet.
filika

09-06-02, 16:00
xmmm
eisai o idios empire pou me katigorise gia griza diafimisi:

an oxi......sorry
an nai....tote pistevo apadisa parapano:

AKRIVO SPITI-MEGALO SPITI-KALODIA TIXOUS KAI PATOMATA
DEN TERIAZEI
AN TO AKOUSEI AFTO O DAD THA MOU PEI KAI ME TO DIKIO TOU
PARE TA 3 MOU.
KAI OXI MONO EGO
KAI ALLOI FILOI MOU EIXAN TO IDIO PROB
de kano griza diafimisi.
einai ena iparkto provlima aftos ton ellinikos spition
an eixan domimeni kalodiosi opos sta states ola tha itan panefkola.
alla an eisai 23 xronon......spoudazeis....meneis me parents.....alloi plironoun......tote den apofasizeis monos sou.
px. exo ena filo pou oi goneis tou agorasan diko tou spiti 2ari.
loipon an imoun sti thesi tou tha etrexa na valo IC kai sta pap***a mou ta kalodia.
gia pes mou omos.
kathete o dad anapaftika sto kanape tou varagi (nai eimai psonio....xexexe)
kai vlepei to kalodio ston tixo........AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!)
den eimai empathis
den kano griza diafimisi
prospatho na eksigiso to prob mou kai na do an iparxei lisi
opote mi mou epititheste
kai an leo vlakeies sorry
den eimai protodesmitis
aplos foititis iatrikis
filia

Νεκτάριος
09-06-02, 16:50
Yparxoun xilioi dyo tropoi gia na peraseis ena kalodio sto spiti sou. Enas diadedomenos einai o klassikos toixo-toixo me tetoio tropo wste na mhn fenete yparxoun eidikes kataskeyes pou kalyptoun ta kalodia.

Allos tropos pou mporei kai na sou fainetai periergos einai na perastei kanonika apo tis kalodiosis mesa stous toixous bebaia thelei douleia alla ginete an ayto se apasxolei toso poly!

Ola ginontai mhn anyshxeis. Egw apla koitaw ta mhnymata sou me ligi epifilaxh giati blepo oti perimeneis apo ton ote kalytera pragmata entaxei as to dextw alla pesmou kati aplo eisai les diate8imenos na dineis 25-30.000 to mhna, egw eimai diate8imenos na dinw 100.000 TO MHNA alla den einai oute 100.000 einai to ligotero 300.000 drx gia liga mbs to mhna.

Opote mallon dyskolo to blepw me tetoia nootropia (apo ote-based) na exoume kalo kai ftino broadband.

Gnorizontas ta timologia kai blepontas ta mhnymata sou ta theorisa griza diafimisi elpizw na kanw lathos gia to kalo tis syzhthshs mas. :)

Lyse se parakalw prwta to problhma pou exeis genikotera me thn IC kai ta kalwdia na eisai sigouros oti einai to apolyta deytereyon thema.

Filika.

09-06-02, 16:53
kai kati telefteo:

i alli lisi afou to kalodio anevenei mexri saloni apo solina.......
einai afto pou eipa delphi forums
asirmato lan gia na glitoso kalodia
300 dollars US
einai mia lisi......

Νεκτάριος
09-06-02, 16:58
Bebaia yparxei kai ayth h lysh! Kai tha breis kai poio fthnes syskeyes an psaxeis ligo perissotero.

Opws sou eipa apofasise esy ti 8eleis (h an 8eleis kalytera, katafere na piseis ton patera sou :) ) kai to problhma ayto lynetai.

Filika.

09-06-02, 17:24
....koita ti kanan ta japania.....1-0 tou rossous.....an einai dinato!!!

anyways
me tin IC den exo prob
mono mikra parapona tou stil: ti bandwith exete? de sou leme.......

eksallou 15,000/mina gia ena xrono kai meta an de mou aresei to kovo
epeidi einai 24/7 akomi kai meso oro 10kb/sec na vgazo oli mera emena mou kanei
na doulepsei kai audiogalaxy se kana 2mino kai ego eimai ftiagmenos
gia mena kirio prob einai pistepse to ta kalodia
diladi ginete na perastoun ta kalodia briza-briza os to domatio mou?
milame gia elliniki kataskevi
gia kati tetoio pitho tous parents aneta afou etsi tha borousame na perasoume kai ti 2i grammi ote se olo to spiti
alla einai efikto?
kai fisika me logiki timi......mi mou pei o xodros ilektrologos 100,000 giati tote pao kai vazo asirmato lan
oi texnikoi tis IC arage me kati extra kanoun tetoia douleia?

Νεκτάριος
09-06-02, 17:42
aman aytoi oi sxistomatides! :)


Koita kalo 8a htan na rotiseis enan hlektrologo gia thn egkatastash ayth kai an einai akriba ti allos tropos 8a mporouse na ginei kai na peite kai gia thn timh klp klp.

To idio kai me tous texnikous tis IC an kai den nomizw na kanoun kati tetoio oi anr8opoi einai Engineers kai oxi hlektrologoi:)


ayta...

09-06-02, 17:51
ok.....
tha epaneltho otan rotikso kai matho......
de boro na pistepso oti eimai o monadikos me tetoia probs kai kollimata
sigoura einai kai alloi sa kai emena

anyways......
pros to paron kafe sti plateia amarousiou na xazepsoume kai ta pipinakia pou dinan panellinies kai meta *sniff* diavasma......KALOKAIRIATIKA!!

elpizo na ginete.........
cheers mate

13-06-02, 14:57
apla mia paremvash sxetika me to audiogalaxy kai thn IC prooptikh:
antigrafw apw to lomechanik.net - http://www.lomechanik.net/topics.php?op=viewtopic&topic=6


It had to happen, of course, and now it has: the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) is taking AudioGalaxy, arguably the *best* MP3 sharing service out there, to court. Read up on it here or peruse the official statement here. Of course a high quality successor is already waiting in the wings.
RIAA report: http://www.riaa.com/PR_story.cfm?id=520 :!:

ssjgoku_3
29-06-02, 05:35
Re paidia.Gia tin ADSL den xreiazomaste na kanoume kapia sindesi opws p.x. twra me otenet/forthnet klp?An kserete k times peste.Pantws to pagio tis ADSL einai liiiigo tsimpimeno.

Νεκτάριος
29-06-02, 05:43
Ναι ειναι τσιμπημένο αλλά αν σκεφτείς ότι σε αυτή την τιμή είναι συμπεριλαμβανόμενα όλα (τηλέφωνο, DSL γραμμή, ISP), τότε φένεται πολύ μα πολύ φτηνό, (μιλάμε πάντα για χρήστες που χρησιμοποιούν το internet αρκετές ώρες την εβδομάδα!)

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