Επιστροφή στο Forum : ALL vs ALL, PING/DOWLOAD ????
Loipon antikeimenika pios ISP einai o kalyteros sxetika me Pings/Downloads??????
Anegkefaloi/fanatikoi/ k pitsirikades sto myalo kalytera na mhn mpoun ston kopo na apantisoun.
OTEnet
FORTHnet
H.O.L.
A.C.N.
Tellas
Vivodi
SPARKnet
1.Forthnet :mrgreen:
2.Mε μικρή διαφορά (εώς ελάχιστη) από Forthnet κυρίως στα pings ACN+Tellas :mrgreen:
3.Vivodi :D
4.ΟΤΕΝΕΤ (μερικές φορές ξεπερνάει τη Vivodi) :?
5.HOL (ένας Θεός ξέρει πια τι γίνεται με αυτήν την Εταιρεία) 8O
6.SparkNet (μετά από τα τέλη του Οκτώβρη θα φτιάξει) :wink:
oraios, liga logia k starata ;)
UGF_GreekMind
10-10-03, 12:12
Πρόσεξε αφεντικό, γιατί ρωτάς την αντικειμενική άποψη του forum, υποκειμενικά !
Ο κάθε ένας έχει τις δικές του εμπειρίες και πολλές φορές (για τα άσχημα) δεν φταίνε οι ISP, αλλά οι χρήστες (εκτός από ορισμένες τρανταχτές και μαζικές περιπτώσεις).
Πάντως σε ξενικές γραμμές σήμερα (ΚΑΙ ΤΟ ΤΟΝΙΖΩ ΑΥΤΟ), αυτά που γράφει ο ερμής είναι σωστά.
Μην τα δέσεις κόμπο όμως !!! :wink:
Nai re paidi mou de leo pos oti poume edo einai defacto, apla legontas antikimenika enow xoris ili8ies apopseis tou stil afou exo tellas or vivodi auth einai h kalyteri, px kapios borei na exei tellas or vivo k na mhn einai ikanopoihmenos 8a i8ela na akouso avth th disxeria h ikanopoihsh.
FORTHNET RULES. THE BEST OF ALL.
Exo Otenet san Isp tora.An kai gia kana 2 ebdomades htan xalia tora exei statheropoihthei! katebazei me 40KB synexeia.
dokimasa kai me demo account ths forth kai eblepa synexeia 46 sto dumeter.se 2 ebdomades pou teleionei h syndromh mou tha epilexo forthnet.ekei tha doume an ontos einai statherh.
Paidia thnx gia tis apantiseis.
Ala an boreite osoi postarete na kanete k mia anafora k sta ping.
dose ip na sou poume apotelesmata apo diaforetikous isp.
Epidi den exo psaxtei as dosei kapios merika ip apo diafores locations na doume sigkriseis.
Παιδιά αν μπορεί ας κάνει ping κανείς αυτές τις IP (με 4net ή Tellas είμαι αναμεσά σε αυτές τις 2)
62.80.127.94
193.163.220.163
195.95.38.182
80.78.226.12
193.36.79.43
193.213.112.71
Έχουμε και λέμε. Σύνδεση 384/128 με ISP FORTHNET:
C:\>ping 62.80.127.94
Pinging 62.80.127.94 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=46
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=46
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=46
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=46
Ping statistics for 62.80.127.94:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 180ms, Maximum = 181ms, Average = 180ms
C:\>ping 195.95.38.182
Pinging 195.95.38.182 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=50
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=50
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=50
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=50
Ping statistics for 195.95.38.182:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 157ms, Maximum = 157ms, Average = 157ms
C:\>ping 80.78.226.12
Pinging 80.78.226.12 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=194ms TTL=109
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=195ms TTL=109
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=197ms TTL=109
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=197ms TTL=109
Ping statistics for 80.78.226.12:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 194ms, Maximum = 197ms, Average = 195ms
Τα ΙP 193.163.220.163, 193.36.79.43 και 193.213.112.71 όταν προσπάθησα να τα κάνω pings δεν έκαναν ανταπόκριση που αυτό σημαίνει είτε ήταν off είτε υπάρχει κάποιο firewall που κάνει block τα pings.
Gia na eimaste dikaioi an k den 3ero na sas protino sigkekrimenes IP kalo 8a htan na dosei kapios px 9 IP ek' ton opoion px 3 na einai AGGLIA, 3 ITALIA, 3 KAPOY OYDETERA etsi oste ka8e ISP na paizei entos k ektos edras, gia na doume oso pio antikimenika ginetai ta responce.
Να και τα PING με Tellas 384....
C:\>ping 62.80.127.94
Pinging 62.80.127.94 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=53
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=86ms TTL=53
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=84ms TTL=53
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=53
Ping statistics for 62.80.127.94:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 84ms, Maximum = 89ms, Average = 86ms
C:\>ping 195.95.38.182
Pinging 195.95.38.182 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=53
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=106ms TTL=53
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=101ms TTL=53
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=53
Ping statistics for 195.95.38.182:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 97ms, Maximum = 106ms, Average = 101ms
C:\>ping 80.78.226.12
Pinging 80.78.226.12 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=118ms TTL=112
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=112
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=126ms TTL=112
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=125ms TTL=112
Ping statistics for 80.78.226.12:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 118ms, Maximum = 126ms, Average = 122ms
Τα ΙP 193.163.220.163, 193.36.79.43 και 193.213.112.71 δεν λειτουργούσαν.
Με την αναβάθμιση του δικτίου της φαίνεται πως η Τελλάς έχει πλέον τέλεια pings.
Ontos fenontai entiposiaka.
Ela na vlepoume k alous ISP na pingaroune 8)
ACN 384/128 DSLAM SIEMENS MODEM USB US ROBOTICS 9000
C:\>ping 62.80.127.94
Pinging 62.80.127.94 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=55
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=55
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=55
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=91ms TTL=55
Ping statistics for 62.80.127.94:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 88ms, Maximum = 96ms, Average = 91ms
C:\>ping 195.95.38.182
Pinging 195.95.38.182 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=51
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=93ms TTL=51
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=51
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=51
Ping statistics for 195.95.38.182:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 93ms, Maximum = 99ms, Average = 95ms
C:\>ping 80.78.226.12
Pinging 80.78.226.12 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=123ms TTL=116
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=111ms TTL=116
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=117ms TTL=116
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=112ms TTL=116
Ping statistics for 80.78.226.12:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 111ms, Maximum = 123ms, Average = 115ms
ΝΟΜΙΖΟ ΟΤΙ ΚΑΙ Η ACN EXEI ΠΟΛΥ ΚΑΛΑ PINGS ΠΛΕΟΝ.......
O athlon_xp einai Grevena 'h oxi; Mhpws etsi exhgeitai h megalh diafora;
Oi vivodakides kanoun thn koroida h mou fenetai???? :D
Εγώ δεν είμαι Γρεβενά τώρα. Είμαι Θεσσαλονίκη και όπως είναι γνωστό ο πΟΤΕ εδώ άρχισε να κάνει overbooking. Σύμφωνα με traceroutes που έκανα (με UDP γιατί με TCP δεν δουλεύει με FORTHNET) έβγαλα τα εξής συμπεράσματα:
62.80.127.94: Βγαίνει στην Γαλλία νομίζω αυτό
195.95.38.182: Bγαίνει στο Βέλγιο σε κάποιον game server προφανώς
80.78.226.12: Βγαίνει στην Γαλλία νομίζω αυτό σε κάποιον clan server
Νομίζω ότι αυτά είναι τα peerings μεταξύ των ISP και του εξωτερικού. Η FORTHNET προφανώς δεν έχει peerings με Γαλλία και Βέλγιο γι' αυτό και εμφανίζει αυτή την κατάσταση. Αλλά μιας και που βάλατε IP του εξωτερικού για κάντε κανένα post με IPs του εσωτερικού για να δούμε πως τα πάνε και εκεί. Επίσης όποιος/α έχει FORTHNET (ιδίως από Θεσσαλονίκη) ας κάνει τα παραπάνω pings για να διαπιστωθεί αν είναι θέμα peering ή αν παίζει κάποιο άλλο πρόβλημα.
As kanei kapios mia mikri lista me merika IP's e3oterikou/esoterikou...
Ta opoia omos na einai sosta mirasmena gia olous tous ISP's.
dld merika gia forthnet, tellas, vivodi ktl.
Etsi oste na vlepoume apotelesmata gia ton ka8e isp entos k ektos edras tou ;)
Ευχαριστώ πολυ παιδιά :))
Όπως φαίνετε Tellas είναι λουκουμάκι για μένα, αν βάλεις και την τιμή και οτι
είναι αοριστού (χωρις πιστωτική). Θα πάρω και δοκιμαστική απο 4net φυσικά :)
Συγνώμη έδωσα μονο IP απο διακομιστές, για όσους ενδιαφέρονταιι:
62.80.127.94 Germany
195.95.38.182 is located in (the) Belgium.
80.78.226.12 is located in (the) Austria.
193.213.112.71 is located in (the) Norway.
62.216.9.207 is located in (the) Netherlands.
193.36.79.43 is located in (the) United Kingdom.
και μερικές νέες ( είναι clanserver που παίζουμε συχνά)¨:
137.224.227.159 netherlands
212.69.166.79 is located in (the) Austria
Από αυτούς που φαίνονται να είναι κάτω:
193.163.220.163 ειναι BoomTown (Denmark) .. τρέχουν πολλά server procces σε ένα διακομιστή (η σε διαφορετικούς με την ίδια IP δεν είμαι σίγουρος αλλά μάλλον είναι το 1ο).
193.36.79.43 is located in (the) United Kingdom (OrangeNet).
Επειδή μάλλον στα προηγούμενα pings που έκανα μάλλον αδικήθηκε αρκετά η FORTHNET ήρθε η σειρά μου να κάνω post μερικά IP addreeses. Έχουμε και λέμε:
212.205.141.5
212.205.141.88
212.205.76.135
193.92.116.16
81.2.131.122
212.122.148.73
213.146.171.7
213.146.190.160
213.146.190.164
192.33.102.239
213.196.180.205
195.141.250.24
217.27.95.86
195.36.6.27
195.38.96.83
213.199.10.118
195.20.105.10
213.186.32.5
195.20.104.118
213.41.84.200
212.42.10.150
82.136.17.15
195.22.129.59
80.253.115.19
193.163.220.136
194.19.190.218
213.237.83.172
194.255.110.12
194.151.30.35
217.67.238.41
80.61.105.69
24.132.16.240
217.210.61.170
62.20.129.36
195.67.65.190
81.224.79.117
193.64.232.8
194.29.194.63
195.197.54.7
194.251.249.134
213.241.68.46
212.8.122.9
62.97.82.164
213.190.152.144
213.234.112.6
147.32.240.53
212.122.65.55
217.70.64.170
193.95.241.207
212.55.32.239
Βασικά εμένα με ενδιαφέρει περισσότερο η διαφορά ανάμεσα σε FORTHNET και Tellas οπότε τα αντίστοιχα pings από τους ISP που ανέφερα θα λάβω υπόψην και μόνο.
Oi vivodakides kanoun thn koroida h mou fenetai???? :D
Σου φαινεται ! :P
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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C:\Documents and Settings\Stelios>ping 62.80.127.94
Pinging 62.80.127.94 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=123ms TTL=52
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=52
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=125ms TTL=52
Reply from 62.80.127.94: bytes=32 time=121ms TTL=52
Ping statistics for 62.80.127.94:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 121ms, Maximum = 125ms, Average = 122ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Stelios>ping 195.95.38.182
Pinging 195.95.38.182 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=53
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=112ms TTL=53
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=53
Reply from 195.95.38.182: bytes=32 time=114ms TTL=53
Ping statistics for 195.95.38.182:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 110ms, Maximum = 114ms, Average = 112ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Stelios>ping 80.78.226.12
Pinging 80.78.226.12 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=143ms TTL=116
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=143ms TTL=116
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=116
Reply from 80.78.226.12: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=116
Ping statistics for 80.78.226.12:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 141ms, Maximum = 143ms, Average = 142ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Stelios>
Tα υπολοιπα δεν απαντουσαν.
kalo einai na grafete k thn speed pou exete px 384kbps.
Genikotera ta results apo ta ping ta afino asxoliasta aloste oi ari8moi milane apo monoi tous!
Pantos gia mia akoma fora nio8o na epiveveonomai apo thn apopsi oti ypostirizo pos oi diafores meta3i olon ton isp einai midamines, anti8eta auto pou av3anei simantika stis perisoteres ton periptoseon einai ta €.
Apotelesma(?) kalytera na koita3oume thn tsepi mas.
px h forthnet borei na einai apo tis korifees(den einai prosopiki mou apopsi) ala oxi gia to kostos pou exei.
Και όχι μόνο η FΟRTHNET είναι ακριβή αλλά και η ACN, η Sparknet, η HOL αλλά πιο ακριβότερη από όλες νομίζω είναι η pOTEnet (ξεφτίλαNet).
More auto pou vlepo einai oti oles exoun skabanevasmata, aplos to 8ema einai pios exei thn mikroteri syxnotita se avto to baxalo.
se gamers apeftynomai oi ypoloipoi de tha katalevet diafora...4net exei pros to paron to kalitero routing me apotelsma sto 90% ton evrpaikon servers na exei to ligotero 20-30 ms diafora in-game...
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